Water Governance Crisis I with the presence of Reza Haji Karim, President of the Iranian Water Industry Federation

Abdi Media: This is where we are back from fear of dialogue, not to the heavy silence, here we go to the hearts of crises where politics, society and history intersect and set the fate of a nation.  If you get here you still think that asking is not a sin, and maybe even the beginning of liberation.

Here we are neither seeking confirmation nor denial. We are looking to understand sometimes to understand the heart of the fire.  The theme of tonight's "Water" program is the simplest element of life, but today in Iran it has become the most sophisticated issue of governance, a country that once was a sign of aqueduct in the hearts of aqueducts, rivers and lakes, now standing against water collapse.  The land of wetlands, the death of rivers, land subsidence, and the forced migration of today's reality are the voice of the water crisis. Iran stands at the forefront of the battlefield, where wrong management, corruption, broken policies, disregard for warnings have prompted the land of Iran until water death. 

The main question is, are we moving towards the social collapse of the water crisis?  Or is there a light from the heart of this light to save?  The most important issue of humanity is water that, if not, there is nothing.  What is the current state of water in Iran?

Iran on the eve of absolute blue poverty

Haji Karim: In the world, various indicators for measuring the state of water and security in terms of sustainability and stability of water and security that use and use water resources, but the generality indicates that any country with less than 1700 cubic meters of renewable water per person is on the verge of water stress, such as water stress.  It is important. 

The average in the country is 400 billion cubic meters of rainfall annually, which is 100 billion cubic meters of renewable. If we divide it into the population of the country, about 1300 cubic meters per person per capita is the country, we are among the first multiplication of water stress.  The standard that considers 1700 crisis considers under 1,000 water poverty and below 500 as absolute water poverty, if we draw a circle in the center of the country and enlarge this circle so that Tehran, Mashhad, Isfahan, Shiraz, Bushehr and many Zagros cities are 27 % of the southern Khorasan.  Population centers are located where 65 % of the population live in absolute water poverty.

According to these indicators, a country that consumes more than 40 % of renewable resources says it is re -stressed in water stress.

Abdi Media: What is the state of water governance in the country without the slogan?  Are we on the path of a disaster correction or downhill?

Haji Karim: We have 100 billion cubic meters of renewable water, according to standards, we can use about 50 billion cubic meters with a little neglect, which we know, the total water consumed in the country is 9 billion cubic meters.  A resident of the capital today is concerned about water supply and is facing a variety of water exploitation problems, and in the days when it is happening in Tehran people standing in the queue for water tanks, at the same time in Dashtiari Sistan and Baluchistan, floods are destroying people's lives if this crisis is not a problem.  I would like to say that we are in one place where there are two choices in two different paths or we can reform the water governance system. We are ranked 61th in the world without considering the population of 61, a country with 100 billion cubic meters of water or reforming the environment and moving the environment and moving to the environment.

Blue Bankruptcy and Kaveh Madani Analysis

Abdi Media: I remember Kobra's decision. It is really a decision to decide on the Islamic Republic, not waiting or waiting or waiting for that slap to slap a slap or truth.  Not too late?

Haji Karim: One of the great masters of ideology and water resources management is Dr. Kaveh Madani. They have a word called blue bankruptcy. They have entered the blue bankruptcy.  There is no water in a country. You live in a country with 100 billion cubic meters of water. The whole drinking and industry industry is 3.7 billion cubic meters. Alfalfa is 8.5 billion cubic meters.

Abdi Media: My concern is about decision making.  Dr. Kaveh Madani served as the Vice President of International and Innovation in September 1396, arresting and interrogating his decision -making sections for espionage, as soon as he leaves Iran as the head of the Institute of Water, Environment and Health of the University of the United Nations, who is appointed to Iran.  Because of my own journalism and media status, I ask you, is the water industry not a policy industry?  How can we interpret these topics?  This person could serve this country today, but we drove him with tags and accusations, and no doubt today the slap that is played is the result of those actions.

Predicting Blue Nattrims up to 2034

Haji Karim: Two years ago, we were invited to give our analysis on the water issue, I attended the meeting and presented the Posenti.

Abdi Media: You also had a lecture on the leadership

Haji Karim: No, I mean somewhere else, we had an analysis if we consider the current consumption pattern regime, the current rainfall and the current temperature regime in 1412, we reach the absolute blue point where Dr. Kaveh Madani uses the Blue Bankruptcy.  It is a combination, and I said who says these conversations is not important that this analysis shows that we will not only reach the point in 1412, but other statistics and studies, including the National Center for Agriculture Studies of the Iranian Chamber of Agriculture or the Majlis Research Center, indicate that temperature changes are not linear.

Abdi Media: Were Mr. Nikbakht Deputy?

Haji Karim: Yes, I told them that these studies indicate that we were getting to this point much earlier than 1412.  It is the likes of these security clashes with elites such as Kaveh Madani.  I come from the water industry. All dams, water supply, water treatment and sewage treatment projects are also carried out in our complex. One of the things that broke the industry's back is the deadly process of brain and elite escape.  These encounters cause their capital and immigration.  I feel that the sovereignty of the water from the brick tower it had in previous years and dismissed the whole issue of the water crisis and warned us to condemn Netanyahu today that we reached a point where this identified crisis was optimistic in the summer of 1404.

Difference of the real private sector from the wrong projects

Abdi Media: You are the head of the federation who is supposed to represent the water industry Is the federation in practice not become a tool to justify government policies?  Projects have not been implemented outside the water industry, so talk about it?  Who has created who people get the collar?

Haji Karim: Military Water Industry is a subsidiary of construction industry construction industry construction and consulting and component production and all of what is used to build the country 3 and a half million people working in the construction industry complex 700,000 are in the water industry.  The Iranian economy in recent years has been the private sector of the non -governmental sector, which is the new theme of the constitution, which does not exist in the constitution that all the institutions in this sector are part of these projects in this sector if you are looking for a executive and executor.  May the real private company benefit

Abdi Media: Do we have a real private company?

Haji Karim: We are sure to put aside the option of institution affiliated companies

Abdi Media: Do you mean the military?  Khatam Construction Camp

Haji Karim: Subsidiary of the Mostazafan Foundation

Water transfer projects and justifications

Abdi Media: Discussion of dams to different areas from upstream to downstream industries

Haji Karim: At the exhibition two years ago at the leadership, Mr. Khamenei, who came to visit them for a visit to the oil and gas booth, asked that the company was privately said.  The problem is not that a project that has not studied has implemented a real private sector or a revolutionary institution is that in a country the project's algorithm, project design, project implementation, a project that is not justified is how this is the same as water governance. 

A few days ago, Netanyahu had said that I would like to talk about it.  We are a country that has two thousand kilometers south of the coast, and the population centers are far from these beaches. The project is defined as to bring water from the Oman Sea to Khorasan. The same project is without study because in Khorasan it is 6 euros and the Ministry of Energy can now get a half -cubic meter in the south.  How can it be sustained to supply water to Mashhad, which is 1500 kilometers from the eastern corridor of Iran, which is not very safe than the rest of the country.  The important question is that Mashhad has 7 billion cubic meters of abbot rights. Simply lower the cultivation level 5 %. 350 million cubic meters save. The project is definitely defined and implemented.  That is $ 1 billion and no drop of water today. These are the result of wrong governance.

Traditional Agriculture and Lobby

Abdi Media: Water transfer is where we say to create a project to be unemployed. We are the main issue of corruption. The corruption where you look at this corruption is not safe in the water industry.  Experts have been providing serious warnings for 15 years. The highest level of traditional agricultural lobbies is still louder than any scientific sound.

Haji Karim: I remember I had a pioneering professor during my doctoral degree when you work on a specialized subject if you wake up at three o'clock in the morning.  To.  Tehran has a population of 16 % of the country's population, Tehran consumes 11 % of the country's renewable water resources with 1.1 billion cubic meters annually, which means that in the country with about 180 cubic meters of the national average water consumption in the country is not lower in the country.  We should not take the finger at the people. People are not bad people. People have lived with water shortages for thousands of years.  In the agricultural sector of the Ministry of Agriculture, in order to compensate for its abandonment and short, he hides himself behind the farmer who needs a livelihood.  See the Law on Increasing Agricultural Productivity of 2010, which has required the Ministry of Agriculture to form water organizations and deliver water volumes to farmers in a plain, such as the Arjang Plain Farmers and you can hand over 300,000 cubic meters of water annually.  If we talk about aqueduct, one Western researchers believe that the aqueduct's engineering achievement three thousand years ago is equivalent to traveling to the moon, and aqueduct engineering and structural work is not the only valuable in the field of farmers' participatory aqueducts around these aqueducts.  We did not give him agricultural water management, so we cannot take the finger to the farmer, the farmers are not in the charges, the farmer claims to be in this field. We should not accuse the farmer. 

The key to the story is that in a complex issue like water you cannot decide in the closed room without the presence of the beneficiaries.  There is a rac called the High Council of Water in this council, except for the people and the private sector, two representatives of Mr. President's expert on the Supreme Water Council.

Self -sufficiency and food security

Abdi Media: Do you find this wrong about the self -sufficiency of agriculture about some of the celebrations?  Did you really need to be self -sufficient in some goods?

Haji Karim: There is a concept called food security. The sovereignty must be able to provide citizens' food security with high confidence, citizens do not worry that there are wheat next year, farmers are not worried about livestock inputs, we have created a sputum today.  In the Seventh Schedule, the last of our last development document was expected to be taken from all the previous experiences, we have set the seventh plan in many 90 % self -sufficiency products.  There is a document called the Food Security Document Document. In the late Raisi administration, this document is approved by the Supreme Council of the Cultural Revolution approved by the Social Revolution that agriculture must reach 50 billion cubic meters to 50 billion cubic meters.  In the country there is a three -year agricultural census. The results of this March 1403 census were published in the period when the document existed during the three -year period of drought. The results of the census showed 17 % increased cultivation in gardens, and in agricultural crops, we also increased in drought.  There are thousands of options to increase food security. There are dozens of studies in agricultural efficiency. In US California, it decreased by 30 %, but as the rest of the cultivation level increased by 40 %, the crop harvest increased by 40 %, and the farmer's table increased.  Another crop is an extraterrestrial crop today on the outskirts of the Nile River, there is a CIA of talented land. It also has a very good carbon reserve. It is very prone to agriculture, but the idea that we should be self -sufficient does not allow Iran to go for extraterrestrial cultivation.

Extraterrestrial cultivation and engineering opportunity

Abdi Media: We have fenced ourselves around. This monopoly has made us look at anything with the idea.  We open the eye from where we don't think we've been hit, the slap you mentioned this slap is really played, we closed the doors.

Haji Karim: The policy maker's concern in this regard is to say that if we go to Kazakhstan or Sudan, what if I did not return the wheat?  Dr. Kalantari had an interesting equivalent. He believed that it was a 4 -month -old wheat harvest period for 4 months, so that if that country did not return the wheat, we would not have trouble.  The second option is the option of countries that have the potential of extraterrestrial cultivation, such as African countries or CIAs are engineering technical services markets. Countries are in need of engineering technical services.  May we plant wheat in Sudan at the same time making a water treatment plant and bridge. He can't give you wheat.

Abdi Media: When you said to plant wheat but do not return the country, the rule of a chain is intertwined when it is in the bolt policy and is not recognized as a threat to Iran, there is no concern that we do not give us wheat that many interactions are not established and that sanctions are no longer in place.

Haji Karim: We think the policy maker's concern is valid, we should think that they do not back up, but this is also a solution that puts us in a much more risky condition so that we can use the wheat for 4 months. This will bring us to a place where the country's transgressor can imagine it in its fantasies. 

Listen without a filter in the cosbox

Iranian water engineering and comparison with Israel

Abdi Media: In the same way we don't look at who is talking, see what he says is fundamentally unfounded?  Are these projects operational?  In Iran, several thousand people need to make a huge project to talk about Iran that we do not talk about joking.  One of my friends was talking about Dubai highways. In the UAE, if you want to build a ten -lane highway, it is easy to do this in Iran because the soil test is done at zero kilometers to the same test at 100 kilometers, the infrastructure is the same, but in Iran, the texture is one of the mountains.  Is it?  And how technically it is implemented and implemented?

Haji Karim: We are still in the grievance of more than a thousand compatriots and dozens of children who have been mistaken in their own blood through Israeli crimes, so it is wrong to think that someone would do something for us.  First of all, the Israelis, despite all the propaganda propaganda, have a number of patents monopolized in desalination of desalination and some patents in irrigation optimization systems;  But today Israel purifies 90 % of its sewage, uses the water of the fencing, it does not have much renewable water, provides a large part of the cloak.  The Iranian water industry is firmly said from India to North Africa in terms of technical and engineering without competitors, in our country 99.8 % of cities have access to healthy urban water, which is 83 % in the world, about 88 percent of our country in the countryside has access to healthy urban water, which is 68 % in the world.  The threshold of reaching the annual record of 700 million cubic meters of seawater is engineered. Today we do not need an out -of -technology country.  But in terms of engineering, we have nothing to do with the evidence that Iranian companies are exporting engineering technical services in the water sector despite all the sanctions on the 4 continents of the world. These companies build dams, refineries, desalination.

The second issue is the issue of water governance, Israel is one of the successful countries in water governance and integrated and interconnected water management. Israel is very successful, but we are talking about a country that is 22,000 kilometers wide, with a large number of water and water management in Iran, with a large number of water and water management in that country.  From the country below zero and in the other part of the cooler, Israel has no high low and high -end question, one of which is in the water transfer plan to Khorasan is that the Oman Sea is 1400 meters high with Mashhad.  Its breadth and variety realized not by copying a small country, our problem is not imported. The pattern of governance is not imported, we must be able to nurture the pattern of governance that is specific to Iran, otherwise the dam and water treatment plant and desalination are made by Iranians. We need integrated water governance.

Problems of water and environmental transmission lines

Abdi Media: When anyone talks about Iran, he has to pay more attention and attention to Iran is a country with a thousand years of civilization.  As an Iranian, I am unfortunate that the rule of the day has been a day when someone outside my country is copying for my country, regardless of security and political debate.  Why are inter -area and provincial water transfer projects continue to be the top priorities of politicians despite the strong protests of the people?

Haji Karim: Dr. Fazeli states a point and says that a section of a policy maker and politician does not know a more solution. Whatever you say, he does the same thing on the issue of water supply and water supply in Iran.  Tehran, which has no water, rivers, lakes and springs, water supply elsewhere in Tehran, there are 14 million people per day to decentralize, using solutions in the world, instead of the recycling system in Tehran, we say this year we will bring the transition to Tehran to solve the problem of water.  No one has said that the Tehran transmission line brings 2 and a half million cubic meters per second, but Tehran consumption is 35 million cubic meters per second. How the problem is solved. This problem will never be resolved not only, but this water is not for Tehran.  Ghoroozin, which is a Taleghan Dam in the last three years, has a 30cm downstream record in the previous three years, 19cm, we convert this water in Tehran that does not help to Tehran.  Make 70 million cubic meters of water and al -Qaeda if there are 195,000 hectares of agriculture in Isfahan.

The transmission lines have two characteristics. First, it does not solve the destination problem because the citizen of Tehran is given this signal also supply the water from the moon, so saving is meaningless, on the other hand, in the area of ​​origin, it also causes the water to transfer Taleghani to Tehran.  It is, these lines are not efficient in destination and origin.

Abdi Media: There is no wisdom to test and study these issues?

Haji Karim: My question is how much does these projects are approved when these projects are approved.  What mechanisms do environmental assessment?  How much power does it have to reject these designs?  Where did the EPA claim what the Taleghan line brings about the environment of Qazvin Plain

Abdi Media: Ki Water Transfer Contractor

Haji Karim: Khatam base and its subsidiary of private companies

Abdi Media: Who was the pipeline transfer contractor from Bandar Abbas to Isfahan?

Haji Karim: Company ??  There are several private civil companies that invest in water consumption in mines.

Abdi Media: The water that made the forests of Hera

Haji Karim: There are a few things to spend this water in the sea by the standard way of completing the project's environmental studies, but none of these have been done.

Water security and desalination costs

Abdi Media: You have used the word water security many times in your talk. Has the water crisis in Iran become a security threat?

Haji Karim: The protests have been converted to Isfahan two years ago when farmers came to the streets with tractors, now in Sistan and Baluchistan, the water story is moving towards security. 
Abdi Media: There are also protests in the northern cities of the country.

Haji Karim: Providing desalination of desalination per cubic meter is about 60 to 70 cents the cost of water to the desalination plant and every 350 kilometers to transfer water per cubic meter is a dollar of water transfer, suppose that in Sistan and Baluchistan water will not be transferred to the same $ 600 dollar, so you should consider $ 600 million.  And Balochistan has between two and four billion cubic meters of floods and floods annually, which takes everything in the sea, so that soil erosion also takes place for people, bridges and buildings to the sea, and if we want to sweeten the water, it costs about one and a half to three billion cubic meters.  The unfortunate thing is that in Sistan and Baluchistan there are many hole in the pits that simply transfer the flood to the pits and create a few hundred million cubic meters reserves, then depend on Afghanistan for water supply and the Taliban will provide a new game every day.  

Abdi Media: Talk about lobbies. However, there are certain lobbies in the body of the government and in the body of the parliament. Are these lobbies real?  Do these lobbies prevent water reform?

Haji Karim: There is a lobbyist wherever you go to the Ministry of Energy you will see representatives of the Majlis who have put pressure on the Ministry for a well or the right of Abe to some extent that the Ministry of Energy can stand out that the system is not allowed to do so.  There is a sustainability of the land. 
On February 3, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei communicated the general policies of the system in the water sector. Today, as an expert I want to write a general policy, I can't write much beyond that is six clauses, not even a single implementation in these 25 years.  So far, no action has been taken to execute one of the clauses, as in the dark spaces there are lobbies that are beneficiaries.  The model of desalination in the south is the contracts made by the desalination plant manufacturer does not receive money from the government, then each cubic meter of water it sells receives its money. At the end of the year 1403, about 9 billion USD is creditor.  Pay the mold of securities when they were looking to cash in the securities, 46 %, meaning that it was paid 1401 in 1404, which was half the private sector of the water industry?  It eliminates the problems of unmatched technical governance that we are unmatched from India to Mina.

Governance and management

Abdi Media: Do you think the current water crisis is a product of climate change or the governance of governance?

Haji Karim: In the year 1353, the country's average rainfall was 235 million cubic meters In recent years, this number of rainfall has reached 175 million cubic meters.  But what is the existential philosophy of state and sovereignty in the country?  They have to design these issues and action plans. Many of the foreseeable changes are now available. We are now in 1412 and 1420, whether or not the climate change is not the government's responsibilities.  Shouldn't these conditions be designed?  In the past three years, 17 percent of the cultivation area has increased. Statistics show that 25 % of the country's vegetable and vegetable production is more than we need to take over water, which is not related to climate change.  Without any blackmail, the main culprit of the country's current water is the sole and sole water system, and if climate change has been involved, it is the task of the water governance system to prevent climate change in the country.

Abdi Media: If we do not take any action today and take a hand and pray for the rain, we would not take action, such as the fox sitting and said that if one day God will bring a day, mystics believe that one day will come in any case, but what if we do not take action in the next two years?

Haji Karim: I am satisfied with no work, a friend in charge of developing the Makran Coast. I told him in Eta Trading. 

Abdi Media: If on the same heel 

Haji Karim: We are doing worse than any.  But don't cut off the corrupt dynasty and go with the same decree I really don't like to think when I think I can't stop me in front of me, it's a scary image. 

Abdi Media: What do you see that you are crying?

Haji Karim: Last year I used to use a lot of AI I told you if I did not take action for the disadvantages, show me what Iran looks like, showing me a picture of Isfahan, we are not inhabited, we say our mother is not a mother.  The electricity is different

Abdi Media: We have lived without electricity for years without water.

Haji Karim: Last year, Mr. Medical Ministers' Selection I said that a person and a special representative from the President on water in the current government is no more important than water, and I said electricity is not important to reduce the speed of development.  Water is not a joke, the issue of electricity in the country with $ 12 billion of $ 20,000 MW if you build solar reaches $ 6 billion. If it builds $ 10 billion, we have to invest up to $ 1425 billion dollars.  This system of governance prevents investment, if we continue to do so, the water crisis is a civilization crisis.  In the recent 12 -day war, we were not in the welfare of the 22nd of June, but the war was not looted, there was no seizure at the gas station because we know the art of coexistence together, if we did not apply for water.  We have taken to a citizen.

Water crisis and threat of civilization

Abdi Media: Do you agree with the idea of ​​transferring the capital because of the water crisis?

Haji Karim: Some things are ugly jokes in a country that, according to a recent statistics on the Majlis Research Center, has reached 17 years of life expectancy, in a country where the government has not only has the money to invest in projects, the projects that have already invested in the dollar, we need $ 4 billion in transfer.  Someone who once thinks of suicide should be treated if suicide never takes life seriously. Whenever pressure is applied to suicide, he thinks that the capital's transfer has to do so.  Demonstrations take place on the president's trips, then tomorrow the project budget was cut off, saying that the project was opened as the project did not reach 50 % progress.  This 14 million must be funded.  

Challenges of private sector investment in the water industry

Abdi Media: What is the problem of water industry activists?  What is the pain of water industry activists?

Haji Karim: We have passed the pain with a ventilator, the pain is for a minute.

Abdi Media: My bitter laugh is more sad than crying

Haji Karim: This is exactly the hysterical laughter.  We are talking about the industry, the frustrated government financed everything he has brought after the borrowing bank does not fulfill its obligations. The private company is banned.  In the country there are 14,000 contracting companies and a thousand consulting engineering companies operating in the field of water, these companies are financially financially financially and because they are producing a product that has no price, water consumed in the country is clear that its investment and production are not economically feasible.

The construction industry is in critical condition, the water industry is also a subsidiary of the industry. There are 54,000 contracting companies in the country that if they want to work, they must allocate $ 180 billion in construction budget, which today is $ 3 and a half billion.  Iran is the third country in the world to have an engineer, but their unemployment rate is one and a half times the national average unemployment average.  We live in an area where its engineering technical services market is about $ 1 billion.  

Abdi Media: Did you have a meeting with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and you had a speech at this meeting?

Haji Karim: Once at an exhibition at a 5 -minute leadership, I presented reports to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in a 5 -minute opportunity to the problems of the water industry.

Abdi Media: Are the concepts transferable in 5 minutes?

Haji Karim: I first told me I was protested for 4 minutes, but the coordination team said it would not be more than 4 minutes. He said that Hajj is the water of Prophet Zahra.  On the third of February last year, I provided these explanations to the commentary. The text of my talk was not sweet and pleasant, but one of the parts that we were able to talk about and pursue the reversal of governance for some time, and we are fairly the economic deputy of the leadership office, we do not lose hope in Iran.

Abdi Media: What was done after your talk?

Haji Karim: From the President's office, meetings were held around the matter

Abdi Media: Regardless of the meeting and the word of action?

Haji Karim: Practical action is the design of the water optimization market system in cooperation with the Planning and Budgeting Organization I think it will be implemented in a year and a half, but there is still a lot of differences between what the government is looking for with what the government is looking for.

Abdi Media: What did you speak as a representative of the water industry?

Haji Karim: We hope for government funding and access to government funds, because it is a drop of checks that is the only thing that happens to the government budget, the bankruptcy of the rest of the firms, many of the active water industry enterprises have been out of the field. We are looking for something to invest in the private sector.  What was explained in the leadership meeting and later followed in various meetings is about the fact that there was a regulator or regulator to do a few things, most importantly the keeper of the country's sustainability, meaning that in the presence of the regulator, no one can implement water transfer plans because it is a sustainable consumption if I have a sustainability plan.  This amount of aquaculture will remain in the interests between me and the investor.  In front of the dumping if I wanted to sell the water savings in the meter of two thousand tomans across the Ministry of Energy's street under the influence of the MP and the Friday Imam of the Thousand Tomans.

Abdi Media: Did you get out?  Or are you in the final negotiation?

Haji Karim: You are negotiating in three pilots. I think we will work six months to a year.

Abdi Media: You talked to the first person of the country. After you have spoken, your wishes must be fulfilled to see its impact

Haji Karim: As the private sector, I am satisfied with its results in the ruling that had never been open to me, I hope this will be open and does not include time every day in the country that is unclear where we are.

Abdi Media: If you had absolute authority today, what was your first immediate decision to save Iran from the water crisis?

Haji Karim: Reform of the Supreme Water Council

Abdi Media: Why didn't you make the same demand during the leadership meeting?

Haji Karim: I raised

Abdi Media: Has it done or not?

Haji Karim: Not, we still want. 

Abdi Media: If you have absolute authority in the water industry, what was your first immediate decision to save Iran from the water crisis?

Haji Karim: I am not like Ahmadinejad to answer the question by question, God forbid.  With what approach with a sustainability approach or the approach of improving the business environment of the water industry?

Abdi Media: The water crisis is important to the people of your business, but the water crisis in our country is the most important issue.  What would you do if you had absolute authority

Haji Karim: If I had absolute authority like the President or Leader, the first thing I was doing was reform the Supreme Water Council;  If I had absolute authority in the active position of the water industry, I would consider the establishment of a regulatory institution.

Abdi Media: Did you raise the demands of the Water Council at a meeting with Mr. Khamenei?

Haji Karim: Our claim was reforming the water governance system in the form of all stakeholders

Abdi Media: As a representative of the water industry, you should have made your own most important demands, I don't know why you didn't.

Haji Karim: Both issues are the same, what we say is two different statements. Our main issue is the presence of all stakeholders on the issue of water governance, namely agriculture representatives, the private sector of the water industry, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Ministry of Energy can decide on issues with the Ministry of Energy, the Minister of Energy is now responsible for the distribution of water with the Ministry of Energy.  Increase, there is no water concern. It is a critical atmosphere that is much of our problems today.  Regulatory, if formed, is unintentionally in the Supreme Water Council, the regulator of the Supreme Water Council.  Whether the Supreme Water Council would be established after the regulator or the first regulator to be established after the Supreme Water Council is necessary and necessary.

Abdi Media: Have you seen a practical exit for this request?

Haji Karim: We take the water market pilot, which results in six months to a year.  Has internal and sovereignty 

The crisis of subsidence and wetland

Abdi Media: With the crisis we are facing today, it is a matter that has been sedimated for years and sediments have created this water crisis.  Final Tip and Conclusion on the Crisis of Water Governance

Haji Karim: I am worried about this crisis, in the world of geological management more than 4 mm of subsidence called the crisis in Tehran and Hamedan, Qazvin, Isfahan, Kashan and ... We are seeing a 36mm subsidence 90 times more than the world knows the crisis.  66 % of the wetlands are dried. The remainder of the wetlands are connected to the open water.  When we talk about groundwater, we are unconsciously thinking about illegal wells. If we have 7 billion cubic meters of unauthorized wells in the country, we have 7 billion cubic meters of overdose, which makes it 150 billion cubic meters to the country's aquifers.  1440 118 aquifers disappear, if this happens, the drinking water source of 18 and a half million Iranians will be destroyed.  In Tehran, it is not possible to harvest more from the wells.  I do not like to think about these statistics, but I have to think that the way is not scared, the people have to scare, we have to take action and refine and upgrade the governance structure, we do not need foreign intervention and external threats, the situation in the water field is scary.
The press and the media like you, which you are doing from a populist point of view, have an important role in reforming the governance system. 

Urban savings and citizenship responsibility

Abdi Media: I feel that this pressure is very heavy and it's hard for me.  If we don't work for water today, tomorrow is nothing but cracked dirt and human beings will remain

Haji Karim: I am worried that this will mislead our agricultural role.  Iran is a continent in which small countries live are unique climatic diversity. 80 % water is 80 % water in agriculture. In Tehran, Tehran is 50 % 50 % drinking 40 % of agriculture, so citizenship responsibility to save water as much as we can from bathing reduction, water depletion, water removal,  Fall.  Until early November, we will reach the fall of autumn if God himself comes to the ground except the people of Tehran to save money.

Full file of Abdi Media's conversation with Reza Haji Karim, President of the Iranian Water Industry Federation